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jadilangsung pada eksekusi, contoh model kit amplifier speaker aktif yang sederhana (agar mudah dipahami) lihat gambar baik-baik dan ganti komponen yang dilingkari merah. Kalau tidak salah speaker aktif alto seri TS115A menggunakan PSU switching regulator bukan trafo dan jernis amplifier klas D dengan final monfet, jika benar dibutuhkanTips Modifikasi PSU Komputer Menjadi 24 Volt CT Jika Anda ingin membangun rangkaian elektronik yang membutuhkan daya 24 volt center tapped CT namun tidak ingin membeli PSU baru, maka modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT bisa menjadi solusi yang tepat. Berikut adalah tips modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT1. Pahami Prinsip Kerja PSU Komputer Sebelum memodifikasi PSU komputer, Anda harus memahami prinsip kerjanya terlebih dahulu. PSU komputer mengubah arus AC menjadi DC dengan menggunakan transformator dan dioda. Transformator biasanya memiliki dua kumparan yang masing-masing menghasilkan tegangan 12 volt. Untuk mendapatkan 24 volt, Anda perlu menggabungkan dua kumparan tersebut dengan cara center Siapkan Alat dan Bahan Untuk memodifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT, Anda memerlukan beberapa alat dan bahan seperti solder, kabel, saklar, dan resistor. Pastikan Anda memiliki semua alat dan bahan yang diperlukan sebelum memulai Matikan PSU Komputer Sebelum memulai modifikasi, pastikan PSU komputer telah dimatikan dan dicabut dari sumber daya listrik. Ini sangat penting untuk menghindari kecelakaan dan kerusakan pada komponen Buka Casing PSU Komputer Untuk memodifikasi PSU komputer, Anda perlu membuka casing PSU terlebih dahulu. Pastikan Anda melakukan ini dengan hati-hati dan memperhatikan bagaimana casing tersebut Identifikasi Kumparan Transformator Setelah membuka casing PSU komputer, identifikasi kumparan transformator yang menghasilkan tegangan 12 volt. Biasanya, kumparan ini diberi label “12V” atau “V12” di Hubungkan Kumparan Transformator Setelah mengidentifikasi kumparan transformator, hubungkan kabel dari tengah-tengah kumparan tersebut ke saklar. Kemudian, hubungkan kabel dari kedua ujung kumparan ke Pasang Resistor Resistor yang digunakan harus memiliki nilai yang sama. Jika kumparan transformator menghasilkan 12 volt dan 2 ampere, maka resistor yang dibutuhkan adalah 2 buah resistor 12 ohm 1 Buat Grounding Pastikan Anda membuat grounding dengan baik. Ini sangat penting untuk menghindari kebocoran arus dan kerusakan pada komponen Pasang Saklar Pasang saklar pada kabel yang menghubungkan tengah-tengah kumparan transformator dengan resistor. Saklar ini digunakan untuk memilih tegangan 12 volt atau 24 Pasang Kembali Casing PSU Setelah selesai memodifikasi PSU komputer, pasang kembali casing PSU dengan hati-hati. Pastikan semua kabel dan komponen terpasang dengan baik dan Terbaru tentang Modifikasi PSU Komputer Menjadi 24 Volt CT Modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT bisa menjadi solusi yang tepat untuk membangun rangkaian elektronik yang membutuhkan daya 24 volt. Namun, sebelum memodifikasi PSU komputer, pastikan Anda memahami prinsip kerjanya dan memiliki semua alat dan bahan yang diperlukan. Selain itu, Anda juga perlu memperhatikan keamanan saat memodifikasi PSU komputer. Pastikan PSU komputer telah dimatikan dan dicabut dari sumber daya listrik sebelum memulai modifikasi. Dalam modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT, Anda juga perlu memperhatikan grounding dan hubungan kabel dengan baik. Jangan sampai terjadi kebocoran arus atau kerusakan pada komponen lainnya. Modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT bisa menjadi solusi yang murah dan efektif untuk membangun rangkaian elektronik yang membutuhkan daya 24 volt. Namun, pastikan Anda melakukan modifikasi dengan hati-hati dan memperhatikan semua faktor yang Modifikasi PSU Komputer Menjadi 24 Volt CT Berikut adalah tutorial modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT1. Pahami Prinsip Kerja PSU Komputer Sebelum memodifikasi PSU komputer, pahami terlebih dahulu prinsip kerjanya. PSU komputer mengubah arus AC menjadi DC dengan menggunakan transformator dan dioda. Transformator biasanya memiliki dua kumparan yang masing-masing menghasilkan tegangan 12 volt. Untuk mendapatkan 24 volt, Anda perlu menggabungkan dua kumparan tersebut dengan cara center Siapkan Alat dan Bahan Siapkan semua alat dan bahan yang diperlukan seperti solder, kabel, saklar, dan Matikan PSU Komputer Matikan PSU komputer dan cabut dari sumber daya Buka Casing PSU Komputer Buka casing PSU komputer dengan hati-hati dan perhatikan bagaimana casing tersebut Identifikasi Kumparan Transformator Identifikasi kumparan transformator yang menghasilkan tegangan 12 volt. Biasanya, kumparan ini diberi label “12V” atau “V12” di Hubungkan Kumparan Transformator Hubungkan kabel dari tengah-tengah kumparan transformator ke saklar. Kemudian, hubungkan kabel dari kedua ujung kumparan ke Pasang Resistor Pasang resistor yang memiliki nilai yang sama dengan kumparan transformator. Jika kumparan transformator menghasilkan 12 volt dan 2 ampere, maka resistor yang dibutuhkan adalah 2 buah resistor 12 ohm 1 Buat Grounding Buat grounding dengan baik untuk menghindari kebocoran arus dan kerusakan pada komponen Pasang Saklar Pasang saklar pada kabel yang menghubungkan tengah-tengah kumparan transformator dengan resistor. Saklar ini digunakan untuk memilih tegangan 12 volt atau 24 Pasang Kembali Casing PSU Pasang kembali casing PSU dengan hati-hati dan pastikan semua kabel dan komponen terpasang dengan baik dan rapi. Dengan mengikuti tutorial di atas, Anda bisa memodifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT dengan mudah dan Modifikasi PSU Komputer Menjadi 24 Volt CT Modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT bisa menjadi solusi yang tepat untuk membangun rangkaian elektronik yang membutuhkan daya 24 volt. Namun, sebelum memodifikasi PSU komputer, pastikan Anda memahami prinsip kerjanya dan memiliki semua alat dan bahan yang diperlukan. Dalam modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT, Anda juga perlu memperhatikan grounding dan hubungan kabel dengan baik. Jangan sampai terjadi kebocoran arus atau kerusakan pada komponen lainnya. Namun, jika Anda berhasil memodifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT, Anda bisa menghemat biaya dan memiliki sumber daya yang efektif untuk membangun rangkaian elektronik yang membutuhkan daya 24 volt. Overall, modifikasi PSU komputer menjadi 24 volt CT bisa menjadi solusi yang murah dan efektif untuk membangun rangkaian elektronik yang membutuhkan daya 24 volt. Namun, pastikan Anda melakukan modifikasi dengan hati-hati dan memperhatikan semua faktor yang diperlukan.
The power supply or “PSU” is the electrical heart of your PC. And if yours has recently stopped beating, or you’re upgrading your computer with more powerful components, you need a new one. Choosing a new power supply can be tricky, since you’ll need to determine the required power draw, or wattage, of the rest of your components. You’ll also have to select a model that fits in your PC, and one that has the correct cables rails to fit your components. Then you’ll need to install it, and since the power supply is directly connected to multiple components, it’s a rather involved procedure. Let’s break it down. Picking a New Power Supply Choosing the right power supply is essential for making sure your PC runs well. Without an adequate supply of regulated electricity, your desktop might suffer from performance issues, or possibly not boot at all. How Much Power Do I Need? The amount of power a power supply delivers is measured in watts. They generally provide from around two hundred for the smallest and most efficient machines to over a thousand one kilowatt for the biggest, beefiest gaming and media desktops. Determining how much power you need is a matter of adding up the power draw from all of your components. The biggest two power draws on a PC are typically CPU and graphics card. That’s assuming you use a graphics card, of course—not all PCs have a separate card, and sometimes even a discrete card is low-power enough to draw its electricity directly from the motherboard. But if your PC is built for gaming or even light media editing duties, you’ll need to account for it. Other components also draw power, including hard drives, optical drives, and cooling systems like fans or radiators. These are typically require much lower power, and can usually get away with rough estimates. If you want to estimate your power requirements, look at the specifications of each component in particular. For example, our test machine at How-To Geek uses an Intel Core i7-7700K processor. On Intel’s website, we see that the processor draws an average of 91 watts under high load. Here are the power requirements for the rest of our test build’s components Processor 91 watts Graphics card Radeon RX 460 114 watts at peak Motherboard 40-80 watts RAM under 5 watts per DIMM – estimate 20 watts for our build SSD under 10 watts 120mm fan for CPU cooler under 10 watts Based on these general figures, we can estimate that the How-To Geek desktop won’t use more than 350 watts under its full load. And since the graphics card specifications recommend at least a 400 watt power supply, that’s where we’ll start. A margin of error is a handy thing to have, not to mention the fact that having a little extra power gives you room to add more components in the future—like extra storage drives or cooling fans. If you’re not entirely sure about your PC’s power supply needs, check out this handy online calculator. Just plug in your components and it gives you a recommended wattage. Add a little bit for a safety margin, and you have wattage you need your PSU to deliver. What Form Factor Should I Choose? After you’ve determined how much power you need, you’ll need to find a power supply that physically fits in your computer. That’s what “form factor” means there are a few standardized sizes for power supplies, and odds are that one of them will fit the case you’re already using. The most common size for power supplies is “ATX”—the same standard name for a consumer-grade “tower” computer. These fit into almost all full-sized desktop computers, and you’ll find them ranging in power from around 300 watts all the way up to 850 watts. Some ATX-standard power supplies are longer than normal, stretching to eight or ten inches long, but keeping their width and height standardized. These are the monsters that can power high-end CPUs, multiple GPUs, arrays of storage drives, and a wind tunnel’s worth of cooling fans, stretching from 900 watts all the way up to 1200 watts and beyond. Sometimes these extra-large ATX power supplies will have trouble fitting into a standard case, and require oversized “gaming” or workstation cases. Unless you specifically bought or built your computer to have a ton of power, you probably don’t have to worry about it. If you do have a monster PC, look up the case’s specifications it will let you know the maximum dimensions of the power supply bay. On the opposite end of the spectrum, some cases are too small for even a normal-sized ATX power supply. These include “small form factor” cases and those that are meant to hold smaller standardized motherboards, like Micro-ATX and Mini-ITX. These power supplied generally top out at around 400 watts, though some more expensive and more powerful units are made. At this size things can get confusing, since some enthusiast Mini-ITX cases can also fit a full-sized ATX power supply for beefy gamer configurations. SFX and TFX power supplies are for small, compact cases. If you go even smaller, things tend to get non-standardized, and you’ll want to look for a replacement for your specific model. If you’re upgrading because you don’t have enough power in your current power supply and your case won’t accept anything bigger, you’ll likely need to upgrade your case as well, and move all of your other components into it. At this point, a complete PC replacement might be more practical. What Cables Do I Need? The cables that run from your power supply to the various components in your PC generally standardized, but there are three crucial types you want to check for compatibility with your specific machine Main motherboard cable This cable runs directly from your power supply to your motherboard, and plugs into the board using 20 or 24 pin plug. Most high-end power supplies have 20 pin plug, plus an additional 4 pin plug so that you can plug it into either type of motherboard. It’s worth paying attention to how many pins your motherboard uses and making sure you buy a power supply that can handle it. CPU motherboard cable This cable also runs to the motherboard, but is used to power your CPU. These come in 4, 6, and 8 pin varieties. Some high-end motherboards offer combinations like an 8-pin and additional 4-pin connection to spread out the voltage, but these are rare. GPU power cables These cables run from your power supply directly to a graphics card. If you don’t use a graphics card, or if the card you use doesn’t require separate power, then you don’t need to worry about these. Graphics cards that do require separate power use either a 6 or 8 pin plug. Some of the bigger cards even require two cables. Most power supplies powerful enough to run gaming rigs offer a pair of cables for your graphics card even if you only need one of them, and offer a 6 pin plug with an additional 2 pin plug so they can accomodate whatever card you use. It’s something to watch out for, though. You’ll also need cables for other components hard drives, optical drives, case fans, and so on. Modern storage and optical drives use standardized SATA power connections, and every modern power supply includes them. Case fans typically use 3 or 4 pin plugs, and again, modern power supplies usually come with at least one of these. Older drives or fans may use a 4-pin Molex connector, with larger pins and a trapezoidal plug. Many power supplies offer a rail or adapters for these, but if the model you’ve chosen doesn’t, Molex adapters are cheap and easy to find. What About Efficiency? Modern power supplies include an efficiency rating, usually indicated by the “80 Plus” voluntary certification system. This indicates that the power supply consumes no more than 20% over its output wattage; if you buy a 400 watt power supply, at full load it won’t consume more than 500 watts from your home’s electrical system. Compliance with the 80 Plus system is indicated by a sticker on the power supply, and usually advertised as a feature on the box or online listing. There are different grades of the 80 Plus sticker standard, bronze, silver, gold, platinum, and titanium. Each higher level indicates a higher point of efficiency, and generally a higher price. Almost all power supplies sold at retail reach the minimum 80 Plus requirement. Your power supply’s efficiency rating won’t affect its output—if you buy a 400 watt supply, it will deliver 400 watts to your computer, no matter how much it draws from the power outlet. But those wishing to save some money on their power bills in the long term may want to shop for a higher-rated supply. Modular Power Supplies Are Awesome Modular power supplies allow the power rails from the PSU to be unplugged both at the component side and on the power supply side. A full modular system. By comparison, a non-modular design has a big bundle of power cables permanently affixed to the steel box of the power supply itself. A non-modular power supply, with permanently-affixed cables. The advantage of a modular supply is that you don’t have to have cables in your case that you don’t need. This makes running the power cables easier, keeps things looking tidier, and helping preserve good air flow in the case. The only real downside of modular supplies is that tend to be a bit more expensive, and they’re usually only offered on higher-end power supplies. You’ll also find semi-modular designs, with permanent rails for common components like the motherboard and CPU but modular rails for the rest. They can be a handy compromise. Installing Your New Power Supply So you’ve picked out your power supply and you’re ready to install it. You’ll need a standard Philips-head screwdriver and a clean, well-lit place to work. If your home or office is particularly susceptible to static electricity, you might also want an anti-static bracelet. Oh, and before you go any further DO NOT OPEN THE METAL CASING OF THE POWER SUPPLY ITSELF. There are high-power capacitors inside that can injure or kill you if they discharge. For the same reason, don’t stick any tools or wires inside the holes for the cooling fan or exhaust, either. Removing the Old Power Supply Power down your PC, remove all the power and data cables, and then move it to your work area. You’ll want to remove any access panels from the case on some PCs, you have to remove the whole case as one piece. On a standard ATX case, these are on the right and left sides, held in place with screws on the back of the computer. Remove these screws two or three on a side, then pull back the access panels and set them aside. If you use a small form factor or other non-standard case, consult the manual. Remove as much of the exterior panels as you can to give yourself maximum access to the interior you’ll need to unplug power cables from multiple components. Now, identify all of the components plugged into your power supply. On a standard PC build, this will be Motherboard long 20 or 24 pin plug. CPU on the motherboard 4 or 8 pin plug, near the top of the motherboard. You may need to remove the CPU cooler to see this if it’s an oversized cooler. Storage drives Hard drives and solid-state drives, usually plugged in with a standard SATA cable. Multiple drives may be connected to one cable. Optical drives Also use a standard SATA cable. Older models may use a Molex adapter. Graphics cards larger, more powerful discrete cards draw power directly from the power supply, even though they’re plugged into the motherboard. 6 pin and 8 pin rails are common, with some high-end cards needing multiple rails. Case fans and radiators When not plugged into the motherboard or case itself, these fans can draw power from accessory rails using small 4 pin connections or older Molex connections. Check from both sides of your PC and multiple angles excess lengths of power and data cables are often stored behind the metal motherboard mounting tray. When you’ve identified which components are plugged into your power supply, unplug them one by one. Some may be held in place with plastic tabs, but you shouldn’t need to use anything except your fingers to unplug them. If you have to remove anything to get to these plugs, especially data cables, remember their original positions and restore them as you have access. Taking pictures as you go is a great idea. If your power supply is modular, you also can remove the power rails from the back of the power supply housing. Carefully pull them free of the PC case itself and set them aside. If your power supply isn’t modular, simply pull all the power rails to the most accessible open space and make sure they’re free of entanglements with anything else in the case. Now turn your attention to the back of the PC. The power supply is held in place with three to five screws that are accessible from the outside of the PC case. Remove them and set them aside. Some case designs differ; if you see more screws in non-standard locations on the power supply, remove them too. With all the cables unplugged and the retention screws removed, you can now pull the power supply free of the case. Depending on where the power supply is placed top or bottom of the case and what other components are nearby, pulling it out of the case might be easy or might be challenging. If it’s near the top of the case and it’s crowded by an oversized CPU cooler, for example, you might end up having to remove that cooler so you can get the power supply out. Installing the New Power Supply Now, we’re going to reverse the process. Place the new power supply in position in your PC. If it’s modular, don’t plug anything into it. If it isn’t modular, simply trail the power cables outside of the PC for easy access. You’ll want to position the exhaust fan on the top or bottom of the power supply so that it’s facing away from the motherboard and the other internal components. So if the power supply is mounted at the top of the case, point the exhaust fan up. If it’s bottom-mounted, point it down. If the exhaust fan blows out the back of the case, it doesn’t matter. Secure the power supply to the rear of the PC case with the retention screws, screwing from the outside of the case into the metal housing of the power supply. Use the screws from the previous power supply if you’re replacing it, otherwise the screws should have come with either your PC case or the power supply itself. When the power supply is fixed in place, it’s time to plug in all those cables. If your power supply is modular, plug the cables into their sockets on the back of the supply itself. Now plug the opposite end of the rails into their corresponding components. These components are fairly standardized motherboard, motherboard-CPU, storage drives and disc drives, GPU if applicable, and case fans or radiators if they’re not already plugged in. You should be able to plug everything in without any further tools. If something isn’t plugging in all the way, check the orientation of the plug; all of the multi-pin cables should only be able to fit one way. As you’re plugging in components, be wary of where you run the power cables. The inside of your PC doesn’t have to look like a showroom, but you should make sure that power and data cables don’t trail near cooling fans they can drag and tangle. Even if they’re only touching slightly, they’ll make an annoying noise once your PC is running and potentially strip the protective casing. Also, keeping cables as tidy as you can not only looks better, it helps promote good airflow inside your case and makes components easier for you to get to in the future. Once you’re sure everything’s plugged in, you might want to move your PC back to its normal position with your mouse, keyboard, and monitor before closing up. Being careful not to touch any of the interior components while it’s running, plug everything in and power it up, just to make sure it’s booting correctly. If not, then go back and check your connections again to make sure you haven’t missed a power plug or accidentally removed a data cable. Oh, and check the switch on the back of the power supply to make sure it’s in the “ON” position. If everything looks good, then unplug the external cables, close up the access panels, and screw them into place to get your PC ready for normal operation. Then place it back in its usual spot, and enjoy your new power supply. Image credit Amazon, Newegg READ NEXT › Which Old Components Can You Reuse When Building a New PC?› Intel’s New CPU Can Hit On a Single Core› How to Test the Power Supply Unit PSU in Your PC› The Best Power Supply Units PSUs in 2023› How To Upgrade or Replace Almost Any PC Component› How To Upgrade and Install a New CPU or Motherboard or Both› Where You Should Splurge When Building a PC and Where You Shouldn’t› Intel Is Dropping the “I” With 14th Gen CPUs
bisa. karena 1 baterai tamiya hanya 1,5 volt.. maka source trafo juga harus sekitar 1,5 sampai 2 volt. kalo tidak ada bisa diakalin dengan trafo yg tidak CT seperti diatas, tp kabel yg dari value/angka "0" di pindah di value "12", jadi yg dihubungkan 12 dan 15 volt, akan menghasilkan 3 volt. ada baiknya diberi elco biar pengisian stabil dan[H]ardWare Cases & Case Modding Electronics You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites should upgrade or use an alternative browser. 24V from a PSU? Thread starter Willsonman Start date May 19, 2007 1 Joined Jun 11, 2005 Messages 1,195 Looking at a solution for my case mod issue and am looking at a part that requires 24 volts. is there any way to place a series circuit to get this? Any other way to get 24V? 2 Joined Aug 12, 2005 Messages 3,679 You could be very very lazy and do a probably bad for everything involved ganging together of two 12V sources from the PSU. Other than that, I believe there are voltage multiplying/doubling circuits rectifiers maybe, but I haven't gotten that far yet in my studies. One of the other guys who usually eat these questions alive will probably post a better answer. Mohonri, cpenna, the other EE/CEs/electric guys. 3 Joined Apr 23, 2002 Messages 4,363 ATX power-supplies output +12V and -12V... just take the diff between these AS long as the resultant object didn't need to be reference to 0V AND you don't exceed the current-rating of the relevant rail -12V seems to always have lower power capability 4 Joined Jun 11, 2005 Messages 1,195 well, It will be powering a linear actuator... so not in use all the time. I imagine it will operate off 12V but at a decrease in lifting capacity. How would you wire up the +12V and -12V to get 24V? 5 Joined Oct 29, 2005 Messages 715 There is 24 VDC between the blue -12V and yellow +12V PSU wires. Your circuit cannot rely on the 24VDC being referenced to Ground however, and is only good for amps maximum. 6 Joined Jan 10, 2001 Messages 168 You could be very very lazy and do a probably bad for everything involved ganging together of two 12V sources from the PSU. Putting two molex 0V & 12V pairs in series in an attempt to get 24V is guaranteed to cause a bang. What current do you need? As said, the -12V rail is a low rating, read the PSU label for your figure. 7 Joined Oct 29, 2005 Messages 715 Another option which I have sucessfully used is a 12V DC-DC converter with an isolated output, powered from PSU 12VDC. If you need 24VDC referenced to ground connect the negative voltage output to your PSU +12VDC, and your load between PSU ground and the DC-DC converter positive output. 8 Joined Jul 29, 2005 Messages 5,770 No offense intended, but what movax is suggesting is a very good way to at a minimum blow a fuse in your power supply. Using the -12V rail from an older PSU is also not recommended, because the current rating is very low for that rail. The -12V rail was only used for negative signals on things like serial ports, not for actually powering anything. IMO, your best bet is to actually get a real 24V power supply that can source the kind of current you need. 9 FLECOM Modderator & [H]ardest Folder Evar Joined Jun 27, 2001 Messages 15,773 No offense intended, but what movax is suggesting is a very good way to at a minimum blow a fuse in your power supply. Using the -12V rail from an older PSU is also not recommended, because the current rating is very low for that rail. The -12V rail was only used for negative signals on things like serial ports, not for actually powering anything. IMO, your best bet is to actually get a real 24V power supply that can source the kind of current you need. i agree, most -12v rails on powersupplies are an afterthought at best... i wouldent really recommend using it for anything that is actually going to draw any current... just get yourself a small 24v switching supply from an electronics surplus place and hide it away somewhere and you should be good to go 10 Joined Jun 10, 2005 Messages 25,068 Up convert with a DC to DC converter. IT's the only way if your actuator draws more then .25a or so... I wouldn't trust it otherwise. What movax suggested will cause a major problem... so steer clear. I tried this once with USB ports... wanted to get 10v... It only works with batteries, and seperate sources of power. Since almost all 12v lines come from the same place in the PSU and all grounds go back to common you will get a big spark, and a fire. 11 Joined Jun 11, 2005 Messages 1,195 alright, I'm fine with a dc-dc converter. Anyone know where to get one that I would need? 12 Joined Oct 29, 2005 Messages 715 and are good sources for DC-DC converters. You'll want one that has an input voltage range that your PC can supply typically rated 9V-18V, and has an output current rating suitable for what you are going to power it's best to have some headroom... it you need 1 amp, buy one that has amp output, and MOST IMPORTANT... isolated output. As I touched on earlier, you would connect it like this for 24VDC referenced to PC power supply ground DC-DC converter + input to PSU +12V DC-DC converter - input to PSU Ground DC-DC converter + output to whatever you are powering DC-DC converter - output to PSU +12V Ground for whatever you are powering to PSU ground That will give you 24VDC to whatever you are powering. You'll want some filtering too or the output tends to oscillate. Put a 10uF capacitor across the input and across the output. 13 Joined Jan 24, 2006 Messages 1,171 What exactly prevents the OP from putting two 12V molex connectors into a series and then hookup to the load? 14 Joined Oct 29, 2005 Messages 715 You mean two 12V molex from a standard ATX power supply? The problem would be connecting yellow on one to black on the other, thus shorting out the power supply. 15 Joined Jan 24, 2006 Messages 1,171 You mean two 12V molex from a standard ATX power supply? The problem would be connecting yellow on one to black on the other, thus shorting out the power supply. Yeah I guess it wouldn't work because they have a common ground unlike a battery for example. But what about mains inside your house? You know how you have 220v for your appliances? IIRC they take two 120v lines and combine it into one so I guess it could work that way. 16 Joined Jul 29, 2005 Messages 5,770 Yeah I guess it wouldn't work because they have a common ground unlike a battery for example. But what about mains inside your house? You know how you have 220v for your appliances? IIRC they take two 120v lines and combine it into one so I guess it could work that way. There's a world of difference here between your computer PSU and your house mains. As in Westinghouse vs. Edison difference-the power in your computer is DC, while the mains is AC. You're right about how they get 240VAC in your house-there's typically actually two 120VAC lines and a neutral coming into your house. The two AC lines are 180 degrees out of phase, so the voltage difference between the two is 240V. But that's completely unrelated to what we're working with here. Except that we're still pushing electrons through metal wires.... 17 Joined Jan 24, 2006 Messages 1,171 There's a world of difference here between your computer PSU and your house mains. As in Westinghouse vs. Edison difference-the power in your computer is DC, while the mains is AC. You're right about how they get 240VAC in your house-there's typically actually two 120VAC lines and a neutral coming into your house. The two AC lines are 180 degrees out of phase, so the voltage difference between the two is 240V. But that's completely unrelated to what we're working with here. Except that we're still pushing electrons through metal wires.... Yes I know house mains are are AC while computers are DC but that doesn't mean you can't add up electrical sources in order to increase amperage or voltage. 18 Joined Jul 29, 2005 Messages 5,770 Yes I know house mains are are AC while computers are DC but that doesn't mean you can't add up electrical sources in order to increase amperage or voltage. It depends on how the electrical sources are built. Batteries and depending on phase AC power, yes. Wall-connected DC power supplies...it depends on how their wired. If they're properly isolated, then yes. But I wouldn't count on that being the case for a computer PSU, since the ground on the PSU is often connected to the case ground. It *might* be possible to get 24V using two PSUs, but I wouldn't count on it. I guess you could get a couple of el-cheapo PSUs and try it out. Just wear safety glasses . 19 Joined Oct 29, 2005 Messages 715 It *might* be possible to get 24V using two PSUs, but I wouldn't count on it. I have tried it... you get sparks. The DC-DC converter idea works though. I used a few when I needed -12V at amps for some computers at work. 20 Joined Jan 24, 2006 Messages 1,171 I have tried it... you get sparks. The DC-DC converter idea works though. I used a few when I needed -12V at amps for some computers at work. Yeah because they share a common ground. My idea would be to emulate that of house wiring where they have 1 common ground and 2 "hot". So I guess you'd hook up the two 12v molex connectors and then finish the circuit out to the ground. 21 Joined Jul 29, 2005 Messages 5,770 My idea would be to emulate that of house wiring where they have 1 common ground and 2 "hot". So I guess you'd hook up the two 12v molex connectors and then finish the circuit out to the ground. The reason you can "stack" the two circuits in your house is that one is the opposite voltage of the other. For AC, that's the same as being 180 degrees out of phase. The difference sinx - -1*sinx = 2sinxgives you twice the voltage difference. We don't have that same luxury with a DC PSU. If the second rail were -12V, then sure, we could connect the two grounds together and get 24VDC out. But both of the rails are +12V with respect to the same ground. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're suggesting that you could tie the 12V line from one molex connector to the GND line of another molex connector, and that the "12V" line on the second connector would then be at 24V relative to the GND of the first connector. Is that what you're suggesting? If so, please don't try it. Since the 12V lines from both molex connectors come from the same solder pad inside the PSU, and the GND lines also come from a common solder pad, if you connect one 12V line to a different GND line, you're shorting out the PSU. 22 Joined Jan 24, 2006 Messages 1,171 The reason you can "stack" the two circuits in your house is that one is the opposite voltage of the other. For AC, that's the same as being 180 degrees out of phase. The difference sinx - -1*sinx = 2sinxgives you twice the voltage difference. We don't have that same luxury with a DC PSU. If the second rail were -12V, then sure, we could connect the two grounds together and get 24VDC out. But both of the rails are +12V with respect to the same ground. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're suggesting that you could tie the 12V line from one molex connector to the GND line of another molex connector, and that the "12V" line on the second connector would then be at 24V relative to the GND of the first connector. Is that what you're suggesting? If so, please don't try it. Since the 12V lines from both molex connectors come from the same solder pad inside the PSU, and the GND lines also come from a common solder pad, if you connect one 12V line to a different GND line, you're shorting out the PSU. You say that you can do that with AC because they're 180* out of phase, but wouldn't they be perfectly within phase if they both come from the same panel? My electrician says you take two 10gauge lines, combine the hot and then you'd have 220v. But since they both come from the same panel, I don't see how they'd be out of phase like you're saying. 23 Joined Jul 29, 2005 Messages 5,770 You say that you can do that with AC because they're 180* out of phase, but wouldn't they be perfectly within phase if they both come from the same panel? My electrician says you take two 10gauge lines, combine the hot and then you'd have 220v. But since they both come from the same panel, I don't see how they'd be out of phase like you're saying. They may come from the same panel, but they're not the same source. In order to get both 120V and 240V, you have to run three wires into the house a common neutral and two AC lines, which are 180 degrees out of phase with one another. Those two 120V lines then feed different circuits for most things in your house. Around half the circuits will be on one and half on the other, all of them connected to 120VAC on one end and the common neutral at the other. Where there is a need for 240V, the plug is wired to one 120VAC line on one side and the other 120VAC line on the other. The difference between those two lines gives you 240VAC. I don't know exactly what words your electrician said, but you might be misunderstanding them. In a way, yes, you're combining the two "hot" wires, I guess. 24 FLECOM Modderator & [H]ardest Folder Evar Joined Jun 27, 2001 Messages 15,773 You say that you can do that with AC because they're 180* out of phase, but wouldn't they be perfectly within phase if they both come from the same panel? My electrician says you take two 10gauge lines, combine the hot and then you'd have 220v. But since they both come from the same panel, I don't see how they'd be out of phase like you're saying. if you look at your panel you will see that there are two hots, and the "dual" breakers for your 240v lines are taking one from each hot... you cant take two lines from the same hot and get 240... you would get 0 between them actually, since they are in phase... 25 Joined Oct 29, 2005 Messages 715 Can we back this thread up to about post 14? 26 Joined Jun 11, 2005 Messages 1,195 I agree... but I figured out another way to do what I want to do and it no longer involves trying to get 24V. Shall I just close the thread? 27 Joined Jul 29, 2005 Messages 5,770 I agree... but I figured out another way to do what I want to do and it no longer involves trying to get 24V. Shall I just close the thread? Care to share what you did to make it work? no need to close the thread, just let it die on its own 28 Joined Jun 11, 2005 Messages 1,195 Well, I was trying to make the doors in my Delorean worklog to open by themselves and hit a dead end as to what I should do. I found some linear actuators on ebay for cheap that ran off 24V. I was not liking the option just because it was too bulky and complicated not to mention pricey for what I was planning on doing. I found another way to lift the doors, hopefully. I just wanted to know if I could have made those linear actuators work before I bought them. Glad I did not actually. [H]ardWare Cases & Case Modding Electronics
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